Announcement Regarding the Status of Zelda Classic Development

[Russ]

www.zeldaclassic.com[/URL] or Armageddon Games from any of their links either at purezc, github, or any of the rest of it. Moreover they have been going around to Zelda sites and removing or altering the history of the zeldaclassic project even though AGN has been the home of Zelda Classic for 25 years! purezc is entirely complicit in this act of betrayal.

Hey Gleeok, hope you're doing well. Speaking on behalf of the PureZC Staff here.

We just wanted to touch base around a few things you have stated around PureZC's involvement - and us being "complicit" around the ZQuest Classic devs and their moving of the repo.

First off, an apology - while we did scrub most links to AGN at the time, removing acknowledgement of AGN's contributions to ZC development was a mistake. We have decided to restore those acknowledgements on our About page.

In the days after the repo pull, you approached us regarding the status of the repo ownership - David and I agreed with you about moving it back. We began conversations with the ZQuest Classic dev team to try to intermediate and facilitate a return.

In the meantime, you posted the "Announcement regarding the Status of Zelda Classic Development" thread on PureZC. This thread served nothing more than to agitate the community further in the wake of the monetization proposal from the ZQuest Classic devs, as well as deadnaming several of the ZQuest Classic developers in the process. The handling of the entire situation by the AGN devs was disappointing and frustrating to say the least.

You declared us "complicit" after the PureZC staff held a poll in regards to pre-emptively banning you from the website - a poll that ended with the majority of PureZC staff voting *against* the ban. You had access to the moderator forums as a show of good faith courtesy of being a ZC dev, and in response you leaked remarks around your own ban poll, as well as other internal discussions. As a result, the website was DDOS'd out of spite for three weeks by another member of the community.

While the work they have done should be recognized, PureZC does not agree with everything the ZQuest Classic dev team have done. Frankly, we've had our share of frustrations with them. However, our priority is the community; one that is currently in a state of decline accelerated by the entirely unnecessary monetization proposal from the ZQuest Classic devs, the repo pull, as well as the fallout between them, AGN, and the wider community.

Finally, for the sake of clarity, while PureZC will not platform accusations of malicious intent toward the current developers, we maintain our stance as a neutral party regarding ownership and the status of the repo. We acknowledge AGN's contributions towards Zelda Classic, as well as what is now ZQuest Classic. We just want to grill, man.

[mrz84]

Well dang, I hope that it gets resolved. What they did is just scummy.

[James24]

Why don't we just acknowledge the blatantly obvious? Zelda Classic is dead and those guys running off with the source code is just one more nail in the coffin. Even if they returned it, there's very little chance of ZC resurrecting itself without the necessary funding and we all know how that went. So maybe you guys should just let it be??

[vegeta1215]

As an AGN member since the mid 2000s, cutting my teeth on Zelda Classic 1.84, it's really disturbing to hear what has happened. I read the threads on PureZC and the claimed reasoning for why things were done (by the named 3 people) does not follow to me - ethically or legally. Also, Nightmare posting what appears to be a document from Ohio for the dissolution of Armageddon Games, LLC by War Lord confuses the subject imo. Is there any updated news on this?

[BFeely]

You could have forked it. Or cloned the repo in mirror mode. Both would have preserved the history.

Probably would also be good to remove the copyrighted BOTW assets from the ZC website as well as the deadnaming post.

[Gleeok]

Probably would also be good to remove the copyrighted BOTW assets from the ZC website as well as the deadnaming post.

You know there is no such thing as 'deadnaming' right? No such thing exists in the universe, nor will ever exist.
It's your choice to make or not if you want to pander to chemically-poisoned, mentally ill, or delusional people, but a line has to be drawn somewhere and for me it is drawn here.

[Asuna Yuuki Nagato]

What BOTW assets?

[BFeely]

What BOTW assets?

I was referring to the artwork on the armageddongames.com and zeldaclassic.com websites. A major part of the "other" repo is to avoid infringement of Nintendo copyrights and trademarks, especially in light of some pretty big lawsuits and numerous takedowns by Nintendo which are an existential threat to fangames everywhere.

Just recently, a whole website dedicated to fangames got shut down due to a DMCA notice. Nintendo has become highly litigious and not something that should be brushed off as nothing.

[Asuna Yuuki Nagato]

I was referring to the artwork on the armageddongames.com and zeldaclassic.com websites. A major part of the "other" repo is to avoid infringement of Nintendo copyrights and trademarks, especially in light of some pretty big lawsuits and numerous takedowns by Nintendo which are an existential threat to fangames everywhere.

Just recently, a whole website dedicated to fangames got shut down due to a DMCA notice. Nintendo has become highly litigious and not something that should be brushed off as nothing.

Well if you are worried about that you should reach out to Games Radar and Zelda Dungeon too, because they use the same artwork:

https://www.gamesradar.com/the-legen...n-world-gaming

https://www.zeldadungeon.net/who-did...kingdom-debate

[Tim]

classic middle of the night unhinged gleeok post